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X-Men Dark Phoenix - Fan Edit

#1
I've ever since my second watch of X-Men Dark Phoenix have enjoyed the film...
and after learning of it's crazy production with major reshoots changing the whole third act, different goals and ideas, shortened vision, missing trailer footage, etc, etc, I've wanted to reconstruct it.

I've really wanted to try and create the epic that was the original cut and while I think it'd be impossible to fully recreate it, because I can't go to NYC and shoot the actors doing the original scenes... I do think I could with help (someone doing VFX) make something more grand, and at least different.

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I mean you have these pieces of concept art, but there's way more;

There's an excellent YT video by the channel "Dark Phoenix Un-Cut"

that has a lot of the art and such in one video... what I would give to try and just reconstruct simple things, like Jean having more fire, or the original opening titles...

Even the teaser's got missing stuff cause it's from before the reshoots:



The shot of Scott in the fog, Charles in the backyard of the X-Mansion "apologizing" which we do have that deleted scene on physical... but like I said I don't wanna just slap in 4 scenes and call it good, I want to make something grander, more epic.

Will anyone help me?
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#2
Well this is very vague.
Are you asking for somebody to do most of the work for you?
If you want to collaborate with somebody, you need to bring something to the table.
Lay out something concrete and then ask for interested parties.
#3
I don't know how to do Visual Effects, what I can provide is a vision:

I'd like to work with someone who can help with ideas.
If they are willing then provide VFX work, I want to make the ending / film more grand and epic, but don't have the skills to do so at all.

I don't have much money to pay for a VFX partner either... but I'm curious how much someone would be asking for to collaborate.
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#4
What I am asking for is a visual effect collaborator, first we'll come up with how to improve the story, and figure out what shots we need:

I want to collaborate if that's the way to do it, I understand I came off as to much "I want" but I didn't mean to sound overtly disrespectful. I want a partner, I want someone whose willing to do VFX and work with me.
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#5
It seems to me you're asking for a stooge. I'm not going to pledge my time and effort to be a busy body for someone.  If you want to be a producer you need to have a budget and employ people.
I think you really need to rethink your approach to people.
you don't ask for collaboration, you ask for free labour.
#6
My first plans are this:

1. How can we make the ending more grand? Can we change the villains to make them skrulls / aliens that actually have a language and logic.
2. Make Jean more conflicted: Theatrical cut "I hurt someone..." I feel bad, 30 mins later, I'm now corrupted by the villain being told "they fear you"

Original Cut: had "It feels good" her saying to Magneto, I did bad things, bad things happen, but it feels good, where's that? Where's that conflicted person? That girl that has this phoenix force and struggles morally with what to do:

Also opening credits were completely different, where'd those go?? Cut for time, but can we put them back? Would require a lot of work. Even if we had to make something shorter fine, but c'mon the final "X-Men" titled film has "Dark Phoenix" on a black screen... seriously?
#7
triadne wrote:
It seems to me you're asking for a stooge. I'm not going to pledge my time and effort to be a busy body for someone.  If you want to be a producer you need to have a budget and employ people.I think y...


Explain to me how...? I don't have Fox / Disney billions... I just want someone to help with ideas and do Visuals for a fan-edit (IM aware thats a lot...)

Can you suggest how you'd go about it?
#8
PrismsFanEdits wrote:
triadne wrote:It seems to me you're asking for a stooge. I'm not going to pledge my time and effort to be a busy body for someone.  If you want to be a producer you need to have a budget and employ pe...


Pleading poverty is not an adequate excuse for asking people to do stuff for you.
#9
I've realized through talking with triad how self-centered/focused I can be when pitching edit collabs, or in general: So I'm going to say this;

I'm gonna shut up, and leave this open. If someone wants to help - come to me, you tell me what you want to do, and then we can try and meet in the middle, an actual collab of ideas.

Thank you.
#10
I've been thinking about one thing; How could I make Jean more conflicted, easy answer, re-add the deleted trailer dialogue of her telling magneto "when I lose control bad things happen, to people I love, but it feels good"... that last bit is key... she feels conflicted, we get that in X-Men TLS I think but not in Dark Phoenix... I want that, I want a hero we struggle to root for, we go from scared girl to "manipulated by a space entity" but we need that ramp to the manipulation..., I also have one question:

I don't know VFX but I do know Captain Marvel has a space flight sequence and I almost wonder if... could you realistically, construct a 3d model of Jean flying and rotoscope it onto Captain Marvel (change colors and such) but make it look convincingly like this is Jean defeating the space intelligence?

Obviously you still have to come back down to earth... but you could have her go from the train, fly up fight the space entities with epic music then come down and fight the last remains for the final climax with Vuk... maybe a new VFX shot there so its not just spinning purple particles... but hmm...

But wait the original ending had her succumbing to the Phoenix and aliens and sending out a blast... so wait... that would require VFX but that could also reuse footage of her in Appoclypse... hmmmmm I'm getting ideas now... I'm gonna edit a crude concept of this and see how it flows (obviously no music fixes or anything... but I've got an idea.)

I might have an idea... (obviously would still need VFX to make it convincingly work and music and some cast shots... but... Hmmm